Inaugural “Behind the Curtain” Podcast Episode featuring Ken Wytsma

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Ken Wytsma

In the inaugural Behind the Curtain Ministry Podcast, we interview Ken Wytsma about spiritual fatigue, social justice fatigue, self-glory in pastors and authors, as well as how churchgoers can best care for their pastors.  Ken is the founding pastor in Bend, OR, the author of Pursuing Justice and The Grand Paradox and is the founder of The Justice Conference.

Ken’s Books:

Pursuing Justice: The Call to Live and Die for Bigger Things

The Grand Paradox: The Messiness of Life, the Mystery of God and the Necessity of Faith

Info on the June 5-6 Justice Conference in Chicago (as well as 20 simulcast locations):

Books mentioned in the interview:

Strengthening the Soul of Your Leadership: Seeking God in the Crucible of Ministry by Ruth Haley Barton

Overrated: Are We More in Love with Changing the World than Actually Changing the World? by Eugene Cho

Where to find Ken online:

Blog: – You can search for skeptical questions you have about faith and find short answer video interviews addressing that topic.

Ted Kluck

Ted Kluck

Do your homework on our next podcast guest, Ted Kluck:

Household Gods: Freed from the Worship of Family to Delight in the Glory of God by Ted & Kristen Kluck

Finding God in the Dark: Faith, Disappointment and the Struggle to Believe by Ted Kluck & Ronnie Martin

Why We’re Not Emergent: By Two Guys Who Should Be by Ted Kluck & Kevin DeYoung

Why We Love the Church: In Praise of Institutions and Organized Religion by Ted Kluck & Kevin DeYoung

Ted’s website & blog:

While you’re in the podcast subscribing mood, you can subscribe to Ted’s Happy Rant Podcast and the Gut Check Press Podcast.

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