Joel Osteen Ministries Analysis: Is Joel Osteen a false teacher or not?

Blogging is a funny thing.  You can opt to write about safe things like cookie recipes and football games and cat videos.  Or you can even write about safe Christian things like discipleship and your favorite Bible verses.  But what about the things people are trying to figure out?  What about the things that require a tension and a balance?  The things that aren’t black and white, but somewhere in between–yet you see people constantly going to one extreme or another on, unnecessarily and incorrectly.

When you try to live in this middle area, and when you try to blog in this middle area, it is both rewarding as well as humbling.  The thing about the middle area is you don’t always know that you are right.  When you’re at one of the extremes, you’ve got to be right and you’ll hold your ground with machine gun in hand at all costs.

The middle is much more humbling.

I did a couple of blog posts on Joel and Victoria Osteen a month ago or so after a video clip of Victoria Osteen was making its rounds on the Internet.  In the clip, the line that most got people’s heads turning was when Victoria stated during their church service, “When you come to church, when you worship Him, you’re not doing it for God really, you’re doing it for yourself.”  I felt this line needed a response.  In my response, I call the Osteen’s “false teachers”, a word the Bible uses to warn Christians of people who will change the gospel.

A very good friend of mine contacted me privately and confronted me on how I called out the Osteen’s in such a public manor.  I greatly appreciate this friend and it’s really made me think.  This friend encouraged me to talk to a mutual pastor friend of ours whom I respect greatly; this friend has benefited from the Osteen’s ministry and has a lot of respect for the Osteen’s.

I always think one of the best ways to learn is to hear from the other side and to gain a different perspective.  Even if you don’t end up agreeing, you typically end up in a much more loving, humble position.

Like most things in the middle, the conversation with my pastor friend ended up being very beneficial and also muddied up the waters quite well for me.

Why does it really matter what I or you think of Joel Osteen and his teaching?

It matters because this guy’s teaching is going out to millions, probably billions of people.  If something unbiblical is being said that is leading people astray, it should be brought up.  The Bible tells us to do this in 1 Thessalonians 5:20-22, Do not treat prophecies with contempt but test them all; hold on to what is good, reject every kind of evil. And also in Titus 1:9 when speaking of elders, He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it. (which has dual meanings in this conversation: Is Joel holding to what he was taught from the Bible?  And as an elder, the Bible tells me to encourage people with sound doctrine and to refute those who opposed it, which could be Osteen in this case)

It matters because 37 of my Facebook friends, some who attend my church, like Joel Osteen Ministries’ Facebook page, along with 9 million other people.

It also matters because Joel is an easy target.  His ministry is huge, it rakes in the dough, people adore him, he has a huge smile that is easy to label as “cheesy” to go along with a soft southern drawl.  It matters because it’s not right to take shots at brothers and sisters in Christ and create disunity in the Church.

My pastor friend reminded me of 1 John 4:1-3 on how to distinguish a false prophet: Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist

He reminded me that Joel definitely preaches that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh, has died on the cross for sins, has resurrected from the dead, and is the only way to salvation.  He also told me about counter-cultural stances Joel has taken on controversial issues, something that takes a lot of spine and a lot of Scriptural backbone.  Being grilled about homosexuality on Piers Morgan’s CNN talk show, Osteen replied by saying, “Well Piers, I believe what the Bible says about that. I am not here to judge any body but I am a Christian and I believe the Bible.”  It can be hard enough to respond like this to some Christians in today’s cultural milieu, let alone Piers Morgan on national television.

Which is what makes Joel such a tough person to figure out.  It’s what makes even his teaching so hard to figure out.  There is most definitely a “tickling of the ears” theme to his teachings, his books and his Facebook page soundbites. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 really does seem to typify him in many ways: For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

The tickling of the ears that I see is a consistent theme that if you trust in God, the specific struggle you are going through will change, it’s just a matter of time, so keep hoping in that.  And the interpretation of what that change will look like and be is left completely to the individual doing the hoping.  Which biblically is holding God to promises he never made and is turning the gospel into something self-centered rather than God-centered.

But within the same Facebook page, and I assume in his sermons and books, there’s also Bible verses or quotes from Osteen that talk about how God’s mercy is enough for us, or how our trials are there for us to learn.

Part of me says, “So which one is it Joel?”

Part of me knows the people he has helped by giving them some hope when they had none.  By opening the door and how God has used that door to reveal his true self to someone (maybe in spite of what Osteen taught them?).  Or even the people who hoped it and it did happen just like they wanted.

Part of me says, “Yeah but if you mix good water with drops of cyanide, you still end up with poison.”  Or how that’s exactly how Satan works: taking something true, then adding a lie on top of it.  That way the lie is swallowed without people even realizing it’s there.

So I don’t really know honestly.

I’m not Joel or Victoria’s judge.

I am called to read and study Scripture as well as to steer people toward its truth.

Joel is a very very popular personality with tons of people listening to his advice.  My goal with this blog post and ones in the future is not to trash him.  In some ways, I want to be a student of him.  Not a student of his, but a student of him (more accurately, of his ministry and message).  What is this guy actually teaching?  What are the good things?  What are the things that need to be corrected?  Not from me; but from the Bible.  I honestly hope people would do the same for me.  If I’m teaching things that are unbiblical, or I’m adding unbiblical things to them to make them palatable, I’d certainly like to know so I can hopefully stop doing those things.

If you have advice for me as I attempt to do this, please send it my way.  I’m very grateful for my two brothers in Christ who already did this for me.  What I plan to do is take the posts from Joel Osteen Ministries’ Facebook page and analyze them in 3 ways: *Is this from the Bible (If so, where? If not, what part of the Bible contradicts it? *What was Joel (possibly) intending to communicate with this? *What is a listener (likely) going to interpret this as?

And from there, my hope is to provide some biblical guardrails for those who listen to Joel’s teachings and read his books.  I doubt I’ll get 9 million people to read what I’m writing, but if some of my 37 friends do, I truly hope it will be helpful in your walks with Christ as you discern and test the prophecies coming your way.

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43 responses to Joel Osteen Ministries Analysis: Is Joel Osteen a false teacher or not?


  1. I think that’s a problem with alot of Christians – they just listen and take things as truth. They just assume that it’s scriptural and don’t check it out for themselves. Pastors, teachers, leaders will be accountable before God with what they have taught – now that’s biblical!


    • You’re definitely right. It’s scary the things people believe just because they heard it from their pastor. This is how the Catholic Church got in the mess it did prior to the Reformation. Or also how the Old Testament Israelites got in the mess they did prior to King Josiah finding the long lost Bible during a temple renovation. (READ YOUR BIBLES PEOPLE!)

    • Expose Evolution February 21, 2017 at 2:51 pm


      Exactly why we must expose them. Many Christians are sleeping while the war rages around them. Wake up Christians .. all hands on deck! . https://youtu.be/wP4buPmOcNM


  2. I remember the interview on Larry King with Joel where he refused to claim that Jesus is the only way to heaven in spite of Larry giving him numerous opportunities to give a simple yes or no. I’ve considered him a false prophet ever since.


    • oh wow, i didn’t hear about that. I saw an interview on 60 Minutes where he said he didn’t talk about sin because it wasn’t positive and people didn’t want to hear about that, which I thought to be pretty ridiculous. You are right though, I just found that clip from Larry King: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKF_QgNezBY –It’s interesting how he’s trying so hard to ride both sides of the fence. He’s trying to say he believes what the Bible says about Jesus being the only way, but in practice he doesn’t actually believe that. Very interesting–sounds like a new blog post! Thanks Wade. I’ll try to find the 60 minutes clip as well.


  3. bro… If he isn’t a false teacher… he is definitely missing extreme marks theologically seeming to be beneficial to being liked… and should not be in a position of elder imo…

    You can look at the life of Paul, Peter, James… pick an early church leader… then match his messages of “if you have faith… then…” to their lives… it won’t match.

    His definition of what it means to prosper… is very different than that of the early church…

    Anyway I could go all day. In my scriptural opinion… does he say some things right? For sure…

    In my scriptural opinion is his theology accurate? No…

    • His definition of what it means to prosper… is very different than that of the early church…

      Ya that’s a great point. It’s hard to argue against that.


      • Noah I’m glad you realize that. But honestly most of what the every church does and thinks today is very different from the early church!


        • Hi Steve, that’s not the context of what the anonymous post I was replying to was saying. The point they were making, that I was agreeing with, is that if God meant each Christian to “prosper” the way Osteen explains it (material wealth, health, etc.), then the early Church did a terrible job of prospering in this way. They were killed, scattered, and tortured for their faith. 11 of the 12 disciples were tortured to death because of their faith. So there’s no way what Osteen is teaching can be a true model for what happens when you follow Christ, the way he talks about it being.


  4. Thanks for writing this, Noah. I’ve long felt suspicious about Osteen’s ministry; too much syrup, too little challenge. I worked in politics a while back, and he impresses me the same as some lobbyists did – they sincerely believed the position they were promoting, but they were smarmy about it.
    This question of false teaching is why it’s so terribly important that we all read our Bibles, ask questions – of God and of each other – and not accept everything blindly. I especially appreciated your point about a lie being swallowed along with truth. After a while, the lies get to be just as easily believed and followed as the truth, maybe even more so because they’re often more palatable. And it gets to be very difficult to tease apart the lies from the truth.
    As to publicly calling out a fellow member of the clergy – well, yes, how else would it be done? It’s not like he’d respond to your polite, privately made inquiry. And considering how public his ministry is, he puts himself out there with a church that’s beyond “mega” and on interview shows, and so he should expect others to pick apart what he says.


    • Thanks Kim. I will need to listen to a sermon or two of Osteen’s, but so far it seems like he takes a verse or two out of context then gives the same repetitive message that you need to keep hoping and that good things will happen to you. Which sounds a lot like Oprah and “The Secret” book she’s so big on.


  5. The times I’ve heard his messages, or portions of them, have found them to be positive and affirming and nonoffensive, like listening to good advice. They always appeal to the soul but my spirit’s never touched or moved. . . and that’s probably the main issue. If you go to his website and use the search, and look for “deny yourself” or “take up the cross”, there’s no results. You’ll search in vain for the persecuted church. . . there’s no mention of brothers and sisters who are persecuted and risk all for their faith (but his church is not alone in that). His message would be of little comfort to brothers and sisters in Iraq or Somalia or North Korea who need the living presence of Christ to be faithful in all they face.
    His messages point to many good things and encourage you to feel good about them but have little of spiritual value. What of Christ is offered or found that give spiritual power or life to listeners? Are the words spirit and life, or merely pleasant and encouraging? Is there any increase of the measure of Christ within for those under his ministry?
    What I find frustrating about a Joel Osteen is he seems like a very honest and genuine man with a good heart. He never comes across as manipulative and greedy like many prosperity preachers who use the gospel for profit. His facts/doctrine concerning Jesus isn’t necessarily wrong. I don’t think he’s intentionally withholding Jesus’ invitation to deny yourself and take up the cross, it just seems like he is blind to the value of it, that it’s possible to follow and be faithful to Jesus without that.
    Is it good that Joel offers a life preserver when my ship’s going down in the middle of the ocean? I guess so, but I’d rather hear from the guy who knows the Coast Guard. . . plus I’m thinking that his life preserver has some holes in it.


    • Yeah it is seeming like Joel’s gospel is an incomplete gospel. There are some things he says that are true, but he leaves so much out.


      • Sometimes listening to Joel Osteen is like watching the Noah movie. . . there’s just this mix of things. His message to find your best life now seems so removed from Jesus’ reason for following him – that you only find your life by losing it. But you know what, if Paul can rejoice when Christ is proclaimed even when not fully in truth and for bad motives, then I’m glad for the Jesus that comes through Joel Osteen. He is my/our brother. . . when drawn to say, “Lord, what about this man?”, find the answer to be, “…what is that to you? You follow me.”


    • You’re way too generous. He is a false teacher. YOU, ME, MY, are central to his Caspar Milquetoast message. Listen to one sermon of Erwin Lutzer, read Spurgron, then Osteen. There’s no comparison whatsoever. Osteen is an “angel of light” who is teaching how to extract blessings, wealth, and present day happiness in exchange for your soul. Friendship with the world us enmity towards God!


      • Hey man, not sure if you meant this for me or Noah but I got an email notice. This post/comment was from a long time ago, back when the blog was doing email notices. No argument from me about Joel Osteen. He may even be more dangerous than the over-the-top guys who sell miracle water and snot rags.
        Having said that, seems like Christians give in too quickly to judging other Christians and separating all based on their views of biblical truth. Without truth we have no basis, but truth isn’t merely doctrines but it’s living and encountered in Jesus. I may be off, but people’s hearts seem more dedicated to their views of doctrinal purity than to the call to strive to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bonds of peace. The reality of what God’s done in giving life and a place in the body of Christ should mean more to us than our personal views of doctrine. Having said that, living truth is the starting point.


        • Cannot have it both ways ? The Lord says that anyone who becomes a friend of this world : is An enemy unto God; that’s a high bar jesus has raised ; if you choose to be a Christian then THIER must be fruit seen ; not materialistic and wealth but knowing the truth and reaching out to seek and save souls ; no one is getting saved in an ear tickling sugar coated gospel ; CHRIST CRUXIFIED SHOULD BE PREACHED : HE THAT SUFFERS FOR ME ( Jesus ) SHALL REIGN WITH ME ( Jesus )!!! Satan has thousands of year to put together what we see now to his perfection !! Many are traveling down the wide path and broad way that leads to destruction these days !!


          • Hey Davey, I agree the prosperity gospel is no gospel at all. Our brothers and sisters in North Korea or Pakistan or Iraq or Somalia and 50+ other countries who are faithful thru the worst this world has to offer and in Christ show everyone what Jesus looks like, their very presence and testimony demonstrate the lie of the prosperity gospel. The prosperity preachers preach love of this world disguised as the good news of Jesus and lead many astray.

            My point was that we as Christians are often too quick to judge and condemn and exclude other brothers who may hold doctrines that differ from our own. The clearest example to me are those who hold to KJV only and believe those hold read the NASB or ESV or NIV are not just misguided but damned, as if the power of living Truth comes from the translation rather than the Spirit. The starting point looking at brothers and sisters shouldn’t be their doctrine or even behavior but God’s: “You are in the Spirit if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him” from Romans 8.

            Truth is everything, but the problem of men relying on doctrine to determine the reality of what God’s done is men, and has led to what we have today: men not God dividing Christ’s body into over 30,000 denominations. Living faith will bear fruit in a believer’s life but the problem with men relying on someone’s behavior to determine spiritual reality is that learning Christ, even in a local fellowship, does not mean everyone will be at the same place in the race that God has set before each of us. My point was that church here seems too often to have a heart ready to condemn those whom God has made our brothers and sisters because of our views of their doctrine and behavior. Our views can never change the reality of what God has accomplished in anyone’s life, no matter how right we think our own views are. The problem with the judgment that may condemn true brothers as non-believers is that we exclude them when we could be helping and encouraging in the race God has set before them too. Rather than err on the side of exclusion based on our views, why not trust that fellow sinners who are following Jesus however unevenly are really in the hands of God, and that He is able to lead all such ones into true and correct doctrine and behavior? Why not rather believe that it is before God that such ones stand or fall, and that the Lord is able to make them stand?


  6. Just a word of encouragement Noah: you’re right to hold fellow preachers up to sound teaching. I hope you continue to do so.


  7. I read his book Your Best Life Now and have seen his talks and websites. Personally I don’t like his style at all. There is some part of me that likes his way of improving self esteem, but he has never said anything that I haven’t already heard before. He also misses so many other aspects of christianity that I find fundamental to my beliefs. I won’t list them but I think that the chickens will come home to roost. In other words, his superficial, egocentric, greedy ways will come back to haunt him one day as they do for everyone else living similar lives. Is he a false prophet? I can’t say, but definitely corrupted and mislead in many ways.


    • Hi John, yeah I think a key point of what you said, that I”m hearing in others’ comments as well is:

      He also misses so many other aspects of christianity

      I just re-listened to a 2007 60 Minutes interview with Joel ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxf6U2lPfv4 ) where when he’s pressed about the incomplete message he gives people he answers (And concludes the interview with)…

      “There’s a lot better people qualified to say ‘Here’s a book that will explain the Scriptures to you.’ I don’t think that’s my gifting”

      This is a pretty huge problem is you are the lead teaching pastor of any church, let alone possibly the largest ministry (if you include books sales etc) in the United States. Let alone how this would automatically disqualify Joel for the biblical qualifications of eldership listed out in Titus 1:5-9, specifically verse 9


  8. I think the main charge brought against teachers like Joel is he is “tickling ears”. But could it be we’ve misinterpreted, by religious deception, what was meant by tickling ears as well as what is “sound doctrine”?

    Can we agree the soundest doctrine there is is “justification by faith”? (In Jesus)

    Many times Jesus mentioned “those who have ears to hear.” Hear what? Hear about HIM vs. hear about rules to follow. Ones who couldn’t hear were self-focused, religious, and by their understanding, obedient. Yet, they missed the true: they weren’t obedient.

    Jesus didn’t take issue with sinners, but with religious folks who disqualified the people Jesus came to qualify…those who believe on Him. Those who see His goodness which leads to repentance (change of mind).

    So, I agree the tickling of the ears is saying what people want to hear. But, that could well be the instructions to holy law and forbidding-doctrines of today. People want to hear what to do (self-help). Not so much WHO to believe in. True humility is thinking nothing of self and all of Christ. While pastors preaching “holiness” may be well-meaning, they actually strengthen the power of sin. The law is the strength of sin. If could be tickling ears, is appealing to the flesh-nature. The “we can do it, God” spirit. Saying “You must be more perfect, as God is perfect.” or “Practice your disciplines.” and “Take this VERY serious.” It’s threatening and misrepresents Jesus as He is in the word. He reserved his harshest criticisms mostly to those who preached this way! The same charge of “false teacher” could be on the ones actually tossing the claim around.

    I for one am impressed to not hear guys like Joel bashing other preachers as being “heathen” even. That’s bold.

    And true obedience is believing on the One whom God has sent. And Him as your holiness. Grace which empowers you to “sin no more.” While focusing on your sin and confession of sin which is already forgiven can just make you more guilt-conscious. 1 John 1:9 was written to the Jew, can we agree? John was an apostle to the Jews while Paul was to the gentiles. Can we benefit from John’s gospel? Yes. But is he saying we NEED to confess sins as believers in Christ? I don’t think so. I believe we must have done this to be saved, but if you want to believe forgiveness only comes by confession, than you will be confessing 24 hours a day. What is not the faith OF Christ, is sin. Unless you are justified solely by Christ and His obedience, you will be in sin.

    So you are free to do sin. You are no longer a prisoner of sin. But as Paul was forced to say to those in the mind of the flesh “should we sin, that grace abound?” No! How can you? The truth is, you are not IN sin anymore. You can sin, but you’re no longer its prisoner. You say, how can that be true? How could Christ be killed with sin He didn’t commit? How can you say you are not in sin anymore even if you slip up and show yourself to be sinning? JESUS!

    Also, I see a false teacher could be one saying to the unbelieving world, you are all these blessed things Joel suggests, but without Christ. That is also bad. You are only qualified by Christ’s work. To not acknowledge Christ is surely to be a false teacher as well.

    I trust God will make everything clear. When I look at Joel I am reminded of the verse in the Bible where the following is said of Jesus and His followers “So in the present case, I say to you, stay away from these men and let them alone, for if this plan or action is of men, it will be overthrown; but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them; or else you may even be found fighting against God.”


    • Hi Eric, I agree that there are multiple types of tickling of the ears, but I don’t think that gets Joel off the hook for doing one such type. His biggest issue is he replaces Jesus as a person with “good things” Jesus can give you. The parent is replaced by the Christmas presents the parent gives. This is a huge issue. I also wouldn’t lean on that Scripture about if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them in regarding Joel and other health and wealthers. Reason being, the Mormons and Jehovah’s witnesses are doing quite well, not looking to be ‘overthrown’ any time soon, yet we can say definitely their teaching is not of God. That statement had specifically to do with if Jesus was the Messiah or not, not about what a teacher was saying about Jesus. Titus 1:9 and 2 Timothy 4:3-4 are more appropriate here, as they were written for this exact purpose.


      • All the promises of God find their yes and amen in Jesus Christ. That sounds like great Christmas presents. Again, a good Father gives His children good gifts. If they ask for bread, fish, eggs, He doesn’t give them stones, snakes or scorpions. I don’t hear them asking for “God” but for His provision. Yes, Jesus is the source. How can you disagree? He gets all the glory. Was Abraham wealthy? Was Soloman wealthy? Was Abraham healthy? Was Soloman healthy? Will we see them in the kingdom? Why does John pray, “above all I pray you prosper and be in health even as your soul prospers” if that’s false doctrine? I don’t think we need to let Joel off of any hook. Jesus set him free from hooks…and same goes for me. All the hooks aimed at Jesus didn’t stick and they sure won’t to His faithful ones. I guess if you want to argue context look at how Jesus read Isaiah 62 in the synagogue. You might say of Him…he left out the context and didn’t even finish the sentence, “and the day of vengeance of our God.” I pray we get the Law of liberty in our hearts and stop relying on the futility of the mind…and to Jesus be all the glory…not our precious studiousness. I thank God for Joel’s gift of encouragement, it’s of far more value to us than the gift to spot errors in preachers who aim to empower a worn out generation with GOOD NEWS!


        • And before we go gripping stones to throw…it was Isaiah 61.


        • Hi Eric, I hear your heart and I’m not trying to turn this into an internet fight. My hope in all of this is to teach the Bible. I will try to construct this reply in that way. First off, I never said it was sinful to be rich. It seems you are hinting at that. I never said that and the Bible never says that. Biblically, don’t look to Solomon as an example for new covenant Christians. Solomon was under the old covenant, which was an agreement with God that if Israel obeyed, God would give them big crops, wealth, etc. Joel Osteen’s teaching would have fit in perfectly under that covenant (Read Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 28 to see full list of blessings and curses — which is the back drop of the entire Old Testament story). But we aren’t under that covenant. There’s no more promised land that was to be center of God’s light to the world, which was the plan under the old covenant. Jeremiah 31:31-34 tells us a new and better covenant is coming, which is in Jesus. Jesus is the blessing now, not the land. Can someone still be rich in this new covenant, sure. But that’s negligible, it’s not the point and you won’t find any New Testament reference where that is the point. I have several blogs on new covenant / old covenant that might be helpful here: http://www.atacrossroads.net/why-the-old-testament-promises-and-laws-dont-apply-to-us/

          It’s very important to point out that the “good gift” Jesus promises in Luke 11 is the Holy Spirit, not the fish or the egg:
          Luke 11:11    “Which of you fathers, if your son asks for a fish, will give him a snake instead? 12 Or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? 13 If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

          there are tooons of Christians who have no fish and no egg, does this mean God doesn’t love them or has been unfaithful to his promises? Of course not. He never promised us those things under the New Covenant. But the person with the Holy Spirit is the richest person in the universe! This is the type of encouragement we need to be giving, the kind with God’s promise behind it. To say God has promised something that He hasn’t actually promised is scary and destructive.

    • Goodwill towards men August 10, 2016 at 7:38 pm


      Great breakdown and you really touch on something that most critics of Joel tend to ignore or overlook: The biggest enemy that Jesus took off on and against were the religious folks that had hardened their hearts against people in need.


  9. G.K. Chesterton wrote a book called “Orthodoxy,” which speaks explicitly to the issues raised in this blog. It is a thought provoking book perhaps not familiar to many modern day Christians. I wanted to study Chesterton when I learned that he was so influential for C.S. Lewis, Philip Yancy, and other modern Christian apologists. Don’t let the title fool you into thinking it not relevant-as Chesterton says, “there was never anything so perilous or exciting as orthodoxy.” To pull one more thought from a book that is well worth the reading- “It is always simple to fall; there are an infinity of angles at which one falls, only one at which one stands. To have fallen into any one of the fads from Gnosticism to Christian Science would indeed have been obvious and tame. But to have avoided them all has been one whirling adventure; and in my vision the heavenly chariot flies thundering through the ages, the dull heresies sprawling and prostrate, the wild truth reeling but erect.”

  10. The other Brian January 12, 2016 at 3:56 pm


    “a sign that something great is coming”, but it would be just like God if that “something” is just like you might not think. God tends to do things His way, not my way. “There is a way that seems right to man (me), but….”


    • great point Brian. We get ourselves in so much trouble and inner turmoil when we come up with our own expectations, then demand / expect that God meet them. Gods ways are so counter-intuitive to ours. Plus his agenda is his huge Kingdom’s agenda (where he is on the throne), not our individual mini kingdoms (where we are on our own tiny little throne).


  11. He’s absolutely a false teacher.


    • I called him out pretty strong in my sermon on false teachers on Sunday, will be posting that soon. (Told people in my church who like his Facebook page they need to unlike it — gotta love FB)


  12. He is a false teacher. I just don’t blame Oval teen. Lol… I blame the weak minded idiots that follow him. I’ve never heard Osteen preach on SIN!!. Not one time. It’s always a feel good message. Same slop different sermon. His wife is just as bad. He reminds me of Matthew 7.21. Read it. It’s him.


  13. My advice would be,be very careful of calling people false prophets,in the end you will be judged for that,the same measure in which you judged,am not saying his not a false prophet,all am saying is be ready for judgement too,yours will defintely come.


    • Hi Anonymous, ultimately God is the judge of someone’s personal salvation. I’m not saying Joel Osteen is going to hell. But I am obeying the Bible’s command to me as a church elder:

      Titus 1:9 He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and refute those who oppose it.


  14. If you watch enough of Osteen and compare what he says to scripture, you’ll realize that his gospel message is lacking. He doesn’t teach doctrine. He tickles ears. That’s a scary place to be before God. The Word tells us of our total depravity and would have us come broken before God. When a man tells you God loves you and wants to prosper you and fills your hopes with the good God has in store for you, it doesn’t match the gospel.

    http://so4j.com/joel-osteen-false-teacher
    http://www.end-times-prophecy.org/danger-from-within.html
    http://www.gotquestions.org/best-life-now.html

    Of course some false teacher will be personable and charismatic.


    • great points Mario. We’ve got to always go back to Scripture and go back to what is the main draw of someone’s message: is it Jesus and the surrender he requires and is worthy of, or is it something else?


  15. why are you all being so judgemental? Not sure that is the right path to follow either. So do any of you know him on a daily basis well enough to declare the level of his love for our Lord, Jesus Christ? How do you know his simple messages are not bring people to want to know Christ?


  16. I wonder if Joel Osteen was not that famous you all would call him false teacher. Every church leader should take care of his own seeps.They are called and gifted to care for the spiritual well-being of a local body of God’s people. For what I can see this man has a gift of encouragement, I never met him and I don’t know him personal and never been in his church.One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. If we understand that then we also understand the diversity in the Body of Christ. The lord will not asked: “Ivy what has Joel Osteen done? Oh he smiled all the time and encouraged the people all the time, but never speak about hell”. Was you there when he spoke about hell and the altar calls? No eternal security for envy, self-righteousness, gossip,rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice and evil speaking. When we judge do it in love and always personal! ( Gal. 6:1)

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